I got in an argument today with a lady in a van. She made a right turn while a crossing guard, with her stop sign up, was crossing a group of young children. I yell at the lady in the van to STOP because children were in the cross walk. She got out of her van and started to yell back at me that "She had every right to turn and the children were in no danger." I yelled back that "Yes she had to stop for a crossing guard with a stop sign and children in the cross walk." What are your thoughts on this? I was always told (in school, in drivers Ed, on the little drivers exam) that if a crossing guard is in the cross walk you have to stop until she crosses the children and makes it back to the side walk. My biggest worry is that children are small and fast. They have a tendency to run out in front of the crossing guard. If a child had done that she would have hit them. 

Yes, they have to stop!!! Even if its a 4 way intersection none of the cars can go until the children has crossed. I don't care if you are turning and not going straight you still have to stop. If you cant stop stay away from school zones during morning drop off and afterschool pick up. # 1 reason why when we lived there I had my daughter ride the bus instead of dropping her off and picking her up from school because I wasn't dealing with the crazy drivers after school. (this was off post) 

Good lord, yes, everyone has to stop for the crossing guard. When the guard is out there with their sign up in the air, everyone is free to cross back and forth without concern for their safety. If she had hit one of the kids, she would have been in huge trouble. 

Bet that lady would drive past a school bus that had their stop sign out also... I dont understand how some people get their license and keep it and dont end up killing themselves or others. 

In order to turn right she had to cross the very cross walk the children were in! 

As a crossing guard they should have said something to the person or got the license plate #to turn into the mps. 

Good Lord--it is sad that someone would even be dumb enough to make a turn through a crosswalk that contains children...

Yes, she had eery obligation in the world to stop. California and several other states have laws that say the nose of your vehicle cannot touch the point where the crosswalk lines start if there is anyone present in crosswalk at the time--and that goes for everyone, not just kids.

Prayerfully, the crossing guard got her plate number and reported her; they're normally really good at doing that. 

My kid almost got ran over a few weeks ago by some moron going in the wrong driveway at Seitz. Anyone familiar with the school knows that you cannot enter the driveway closest to the crosswalk. I was a few feet behind him walking with his younger siblings, and we had all just crossed with the crossing guard at the crosswalk. We always just look towards the traffic leaving the school and he entered that second crosswalk and stopped himself as an SUV came in the driveway the wrong way. The SUV stopped also, and then my son was unsure if he should cross or not. By then I caught up to him and said "That must have surprised you... that moron is going the wrong direction".

Another time we were waiting to cross wtih the guard and he made it all the way to the middle of the road with his sign up and kids were almost to him (so in the cross walk already) and a car went speeding right thru the cross walk. Guard just turned his head and watched the car drive off in disbelief. If you are able to drive thru a cross walk, with a guard in it whos holding a big red stop sign, and kids in it also and you dont even slow down a little, there is something seriously wrong with you and you have no business holding a drivers license. We've all see those kids and how they run once the guard is out there... the guard can only face one direction of travel at a time, so if a car comes up on his backside, hes not going to see it. If a kid got hit, after he had already been established in the walk I'd hope to hell that someone would beat that driver badly before the cops were able to come and only give the moron a slap on the wrist. 

Next time you see people driving like that, especially going past a crossing guard, get their license. And report it to the mps and explain that the person has a history of doing it. They will come out usually the next day and sit and wait to catch the person themselves. We had a problem like that in abilene. Not a crossing guard but a couple of kids with a monster truck speeding down a residential road in the morning during school hours. My kids were narrowly hit. A cop started parking at the end of the block in the mornings and that nonsense stopped. When we lived on post, we lived near custer hill school and they had a problem with drivers blowing past crossing guards at the bottom of the hill. Again the MPS came out and parked and wrote tickets. They would be there 2-3 times a week. The cops don't know its a problem area until you tell them. 

I usually see the MPs camping out the day after these things happen... and for a few days past that. I usually only have my keys on me when I walk to the school, and I'm horrible at remembering something like a plate number.